Re: [Derby] No honor among thieves
CDI's business practices are ruthless no doubt. I don't think anyone agrees with what went down @ Hol, Cdr or AP.And they own others. But in the suspensions of both Baffert and Joseph you have to believe and in BB's case this comes down to rules, that are being broken. I've got no problem with either action. The trainers have the right to appeal. And I doubt they would take this action without substantial proof. Everyone following the rules in this game is a good thing and those breaking them and being punished is also a good thing.
Hope all have a great Derby Day 2023.
Very interesting doings in these last few days this year including the Joseph ban.
Chuck
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From: Carol S. via Derby
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I would most assuredly agree with you except for this:
Saffie Joseph Suspended 15 Days For Gabapentin Positive; Artie's Princess
Disqualified From Grade 2 Win - Horse Racing News | Paulick Report
Presque Isles is owned by CDI. So he has given them a reason to
institute what I consider draconian measures.
On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 8:15 AM Mark Peel via Derby
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> In politics, what Churchill Downs has done in banning Saffie Joseph is
> called "performative." Churchill Downs Inc. is interested in one thing and
> it's not "the welfare of our equine athletes"--it's the fabulous money
> machine we know as The Kentucky Derby. The vulture capitalists at CDI have
> priced the Derby out of the reach of ordinary horse players through a
> ticketing system that Jeff Bezos might have devised, and milked what little
> was left of Arlington Park and Calder before bulldozing both tracks for
> real estate developers.
>
> I was glad they banned Bob Baffert because Baffert's record begged for
> censure. I just wish it had been some other body wielding the punishment.
> Churchill Downs loved Baffert until his practices came to light and might
> tarnish the brand. Then they made a calculation and decided it was better
> for the brand to take the moral high ground at a time when Baffert was
> especially vulnerable. I don't have much respect for either party.
>
> Now Saffie Joseph is getting the treatment. I don't know anything about
> Saffie Joseph other than that he has the courage to be seen in ugly shirts
> and a hideous hair-do. He may or may not be drugging unsound horses to get
> them to the starting gate, I don't know. And that's one reason why I'm
> growing weary defending the sport I love to people who don't. Because I
> don't think Saffie Joseph is doing anything that isn't being done by every
> other trainer who's bringing a horse to the saddling stall today.
> Civres
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Hope all have a great Derby Day 2023.
Very interesting doings in these last few days this year including the Joseph ban.
Chuck
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From: Carol S. via Derby
To: Mark Peel
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Sent: Sat, May 6, 2023 10:14 am
Subject: Re: [Derby] No honor among thieves
I would most assuredly agree with you except for this:
Saffie Joseph Suspended 15 Days For Gabapentin Positive; Artie's Princess
Disqualified From Grade 2 Win - Horse Racing News | Paulick Report
Presque Isles is owned by CDI. So he has given them a reason to
institute what I consider draconian measures.
On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 8:15 AM Mark Peel via Derby
> In politics, what Churchill Downs has done in banning Saffie Joseph is
> called "performative." Churchill Downs Inc. is interested in one thing and
> it's not "the welfare of our equine athletes"--it's the fabulous money
> machine we know as The Kentucky Derby. The vulture capitalists at CDI have
> priced the Derby out of the reach of ordinary horse players through a
> ticketing system that Jeff Bezos might have devised, and milked what little
> was left of Arlington Park and Calder before bulldozing both tracks for
> real estate developers.
>
> I was glad they banned Bob Baffert because Baffert's record begged for
> censure. I just wish it had been some other body wielding the punishment.
> Churchill Downs loved Baffert until his practices came to light and might
> tarnish the brand. Then they made a calculation and decided it was better
> for the brand to take the moral high ground at a time when Baffert was
> especially vulnerable. I don't have much respect for either party.
>
> Now Saffie Joseph is getting the treatment. I don't know anything about
> Saffie Joseph other than that he has the courage to be seen in ugly shirts
> and a hideous hair-do. He may or may not be drugging unsound horses to get
> them to the starting gate, I don't know. And that's one reason why I'm
> growing weary defending the sport I love to people who don't. Because I
> don't think Saffie Joseph is doing anything that isn't being done by every
> other trainer who's bringing a horse to the saddling stall today.
> Civres
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